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		<dc:creator>online dating victims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to make sure i commented on this subject.
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		<title>By: Roberto Galoppini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberto Galoppini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

 actually I think your &lt;a href="http://www.gwos.com/blog/?p=132" rel="nofollow"&gt;open source honey blender&lt;/a&gt; adds some salt to the discussion. So said, I agree that taxonomies are of little help for users and customers, but can help to drive interesting discussion among open source vendors, though. 

James putting VCs into the equation, as I originally &lt;a href="http://robertogaloppini.net/2009/04/11/open-source-business-strategy-feedback-on-the-beekeeper-model-revisited/" rel="nofollow"&gt;suggested&lt;/a&gt;, brought on the table aspects that do matter for ens users as well: sustainability is key for everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p> actually I think your <a href="http://www.gwos.com/blog/?p=132" rel="nofollow">open source honey blender</a> adds some salt to the discussion. So said, I agree that taxonomies are of little help for users and customers, but can help to drive interesting discussion among open source vendors, though. </p>
<p>James putting VCs into the equation, as I originally <a href="http://robertogaloppini.net/2009/04/11/open-source-business-strategy-feedback-on-the-beekeeper-model-revisited/" rel="nofollow">suggested</a>, brought on the table aspects that do matter for ens users as well: sustainability is key for everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: David Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roberto,

I tend to agree with Glyn that would could be rapidly approaching taxonomy overload, if we haven't reached it already.  I recall saying something similar last time we met in San Francisco.

Nonetheless, after reading James' Bees &amp; Trees, I couldn't help adding another type of bee-orientied classification.

I called it The Open Source Honey Blender:

http://www.gwos.com/blog/?p=132</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roberto,</p>
<p>I tend to agree with Glyn that would could be rapidly approaching taxonomy overload, if we haven&#8217;t reached it already.  I recall saying something similar last time we met in San Francisco.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, after reading James&#8217; Bees &amp; Trees, I couldn&#8217;t help adding another type of bee-orientied classification.</p>
<p>I called it The Open Source Honey Blender:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gwos.com/blog/?p=132" rel="nofollow">http://www.gwos.com/blog/?p=132</a></p>
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		<title>By: GroundWork Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Open Source Honey Blender</title>
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		<dc:creator>GroundWork Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Open Source Honey Blender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to the thoughtful posts of Roberto Galoppini About the Open Source Whole Product Concept, I&#8217;ve just finished reading the latest, version 2 of James Dixon&#8217;s The Bees and the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to the thoughtful posts of Roberto Galoppini About the Open Source Whole Product Concept, I&#8217;ve just finished reading the latest, version 2 of James Dixon&#8217;s The Bees and the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto Galoppini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberto Galoppini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Taurus, nice to hear back from you. Funambol is a good example of an open core giving away a full-functioning piece of (open source) code, yet offering to a different target proprietary add-ons. I have been talking about how they &lt;a href="http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/01/15/italian-open-source-projects-funambol/" rel="nofollow"&gt;segment their customer/user base&lt;/a&gt; few times, addressing only the top of the 'pyramid', have a look at it.

Ciao Glyn, I agree with you that theories and definitions are useful only if we resolve &lt;a href="http://robertogaloppini.net/2009/02/10/open-source-vendors-resolving-the-name-confusion-in-favor-of-customers/" rel="nofollow"&gt;name confusion in favor of customers&lt;/a&gt;. Today's blog post was aimed at starting a conversation around the whole product concept, though. 

Hi p-brane, an open source project itself doesn't make a 'product', hence the need to describe the process to create around it all complements needed to make a 'product'. I will think about use a different term from the one picked by James.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Taurus, nice to hear back from you. Funambol is a good example of an open core giving away a full-functioning piece of (open source) code, yet offering to a different target proprietary add-ons. I have been talking about how they <a href="http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/01/15/italian-open-source-projects-funambol/" rel="nofollow">segment their customer/user base</a> few times, addressing only the top of the &#8216;pyramid&#8217;, have a look at it.</p>
<p>Ciao Glyn, I agree with you that theories and definitions are useful only if we resolve <a href="http://robertogaloppini.net/2009/02/10/open-source-vendors-resolving-the-name-confusion-in-favor-of-customers/" rel="nofollow">name confusion in favor of customers</a>. Today&#8217;s blog post was aimed at starting a conversation around the whole product concept, though. </p>
<p>Hi p-brane, an open source project itself doesn&#8217;t make a &#8216;product&#8217;, hence the need to describe the process to create around it all complements needed to make a &#8216;product&#8217;. I will think about use a different term from the one picked by James.</p>
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		<title>By: p-brane</title>
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		<dc:creator>p-brane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to encourage you to find another term since the set of ordered letters p-r-o-d-u-c-t-i-z-a-t-i-o-n does not spell an actual word.  Something is or is not a product.  The act of taking raw materials and through some process that results in a product can be called: manufacturing, fabrication, assembly, building, etc.  As a product manager, I've grown to really loathe the overuse of this non-word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to encourage you to find another term since the set of ordered letters p-r-o-d-u-c-t-i-z-a-t-i-o-n does not spell an actual word.  Something is or is not a product.  The act of taking raw materials and through some process that results in a product can be called: manufacturing, fabrication, assembly, building, etc.  As a product manager, I&#8217;ve grown to really loathe the overuse of this non-word.</p>
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		<title>By: Glyn Moody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do worry this is all getting out of hand, what with "core" and "beekeeper" and who knows what.  Do we really need this level of theorising?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do worry this is all getting out of hand, what with &#8220;core&#8221; and &#8220;beekeeper&#8221; and who knows what.  Do we really need this level of theorising?</p>
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		<title>By: Tarus Balog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarus Balog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a bit lost here. Don't commercial software companies exist by keeping their code "secret"? What's open source about a company whose business strategy is based on secret code?

In the examples you give, they are just commercial software companies using a small open source piece as a free API. They use the term "open source" to market themselves, nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit lost here. Don&#8217;t commercial software companies exist by keeping their code &#8220;secret&#8221;? What&#8217;s open source about a company whose business strategy is based on secret code?</p>
<p>In the examples you give, they are just commercial software companies using a small open source piece as a free API. They use the term &#8220;open source&#8221; to market themselves, nothing more.</p>
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