Comments on: European Open Source Projects: Qualipso deliverables on business models (part II) http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/08/27/european-open-source-projects-qualipso-deliverables-on-business-models-part-ii/ Where Free Software meets Businessequally critical of proprietary and open source myths,advocating software choice beyondmarketing and romanticism Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:19:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: GNUliano http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/08/27/european-open-source-projects-qualipso-deliverables-on-business-models-part-ii/#comment-86585 GNUliano Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:43:53 +0000 http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/08/27/european-open-source-projects-qualipso-deliverables-on-business-models-part-ii/#comment-86585 Thank you very much Roberto for your post... I found it very useful and informative! Thank you very much Roberto for your post… I found it very useful and informative!

]]> By: » Software libero e open source: lavori, concorsi e iniziative http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/08/27/european-open-source-projects-qualipso-deliverables-on-business-models-part-ii/#comment-86581 » Software libero e open source: lavori, concorsi e iniziative Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:40:31 +0000 http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/08/27/european-open-source-projects-qualipso-deliverables-on-business-models-part-ii/#comment-86581 [...] Stavolta non sono d’accordo con Roberto… un premio in denaro di 4500 euro per sviluppare un software libero fa gola a qualsiasi studente giovane e smart… da lì a lavorare stabilmente nel contesto di una PA il passo è breve… A proposito di soldi pubblici - e tanti questa volta - dai un’occhiata a cosa accade a livello… europeo… [...] […] Stavolta non sono d’accordo con Roberto… un premio in denaro di 4500 euro per sviluppare un software libero fa gola a qualsiasi studente giovane e smart… da lì a lavorare stabilmente nel contesto di una PA il passo è breve… A proposito di soldi pubblici - e tanti questa volta - dai un’occhiata a cosa accade a livello… europeo… […]

]]> By: » Is the EU spending big bucks for the obvious from QualiPSo? | Open Source | ZDNet.com http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/08/27/european-open-source-projects-qualipso-deliverables-on-business-models-part-ii/#comment-84949 » Is the EU spending big bucks for the obvious from QualiPSo? | Open Source | ZDNet.com Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:22:06 +0000 http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/08/27/european-open-source-projects-qualipso-deliverables-on-business-models-part-ii/#comment-84949 [...] Unfortunately, as Roberto Galoppini pointed out to me yesterday, the insights aren’t that deep. They don’t seem to be much more than what you would get from an hour’s worth of Googling. [...] […] Unfortunately, as Roberto Galoppini pointed out to me yesterday, the insights aren’t that deep. They don’t seem to be much more than what you would get from an hour’s worth of Googling. […]

]]> By: Roberto Galoppini http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/08/27/european-open-source-projects-qualipso-deliverables-on-business-models-part-ii/#comment-84667 Roberto Galoppini Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:49:36 +0000 http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/08/27/european-open-source-projects-qualipso-deliverables-on-business-models-part-ii/#comment-84667 Hi Josef, to the create the conditions you talk about, the dissemination should have a prominent role in projects like this, but as Hemingway wrote: <blockquote>Before we take to sea we walk on land, Before we create we must understand.</blockquote> The research phase should investigate, analyze and organize known facts in depth, if <a href="http://www.qualipso.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=44" rel="nofollow">its ambition is</a>: <blockquote>to make Open source a formidable lever to strengthen Europe’s competitiveness, accelerate ICT growth, and implement the i2010 policy for growth and jobs.</blockquote> What I am saying here, is that at the present stage deliverables like this can't be an appropriate tool to help IT firms to include Open Source Software in their actual business strategy. <strong>About deep pockets</strong>, I must tell you that as European citizen I am concerned about how public money is spent. Hi Josef,

to the create the conditions you talk about, the dissemination should have a prominent role in projects like this, but as Hemingway wrote:

Before we take to sea we walk on land, Before we create we must understand.

The research phase should investigate, analyze and organize known facts in depth, if its ambition is:

to make Open source a formidable lever to strengthen Europe’s competitiveness, accelerate ICT growth, and implement the i2010 policy for growth and jobs.

What I am saying here, is that at the present stage deliverables like this can’t be an appropriate tool to help IT firms to include Open Source Software in their actual business strategy.

About deep pockets, I must tell you that as European citizen I am concerned about how public money is spent.

]]> By: Josef Assad http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/08/27/european-open-source-projects-qualipso-deliverables-on-business-models-part-ii/#comment-84410 Josef Assad Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:20:16 +0000 http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/08/27/european-open-source-projects-qualipso-deliverables-on-business-models-part-ii/#comment-84410 No surprises, Roberto. At a very high level, I think the involvement of the EU in open source needs to be more enabling and less leading. I don't think free culture is rocket science, and I agree with you that regurgitation of what is known is a waste of funds, but it is also a natural consequence. Rather than <strike>create the environment</strike> for <strike>open source</strike> adoption, it is my opinion that EU funds would be better directed at <b>creating the conditions</b> through which a <b>free culture</b> environment will organically develop. I've emphasised the operative words. I don't think free culture lends itself very willingly to massive orchestrated initiatives, but that doesn't mean that dep pockets can't make significant impact. No surprises, Roberto.

At a very high level, I think the involvement of the EU in open source needs to be more enabling and less leading. I don’t think free culture is rocket science, and I agree with you that regurgitation of what is known is a waste of funds, but it is also a natural consequence.

Rather than create the environment for open source adoption, it is my opinion that EU funds would be better directed at creating the conditions through which a free culture environment will organically develop. I’ve emphasised the operative words.

I don’t think free culture lends itself very willingly to massive orchestrated initiatives, but that doesn’t mean that dep pockets can’t make significant impact.

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