Comments on: Open Source Advocacy: from hecklers to lobbyists http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/ Where Free Software meets Businessequally critical of proprietary and open source myths,advocating software choice beyondmarketing and romanticism Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:22:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Ramir.Info http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-243722 Ramir.Info Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:09:43 +0000 http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-243722 Hello Everyone, I just learned that Microsoft Offer to Buy Yahoo for $44 Billion Dollars and Yahoo turn it down. Does anyone knows why Yahoo turn this kind of offer? Hello Everyone,

I just learned that Microsoft Offer to Buy Yahoo for $44 Billion Dollars and Yahoo turn it down. Does anyone knows why Yahoo turn this kind of offer?

]]> By: Roberto Galoppini http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-243618 Roberto Galoppini Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:48:29 +0000 http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-243618 <a href="http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=22400" rel="nofollow">How is that</a> related to the original topic? How is that related to the original topic?

]]> By: ameliyat http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-243260 ameliyat Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:59:54 +0000 http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-243260 Microsoft will be involved in the patent pool for HD DVD as will every other company who has technology in it. The same is true of Sun Microsystems which developed Java for Blu-ray. Since patent pools have non-discriminatory provisions, no tie-in can exist with any operating system or who is licensing the technology. Every claim in the above paragraph is simply wrong.HDi is based on open web standards (XML) which makes it very easy for web developers to become familiar with it. This is the reason that there are hundreds of HD DVD discs (nearly every title) with HDi interactivity whereas there are less than 30 Blu-ray discs released that are using BD-J. BD-J requires a greater degree of programming experience, which is why the even the Blu-ray technical committee investigating HDi recommended it in place of BD-J, which had previously been selected. Microsoft will be involved in the patent pool for HD DVD as will every other company who has technology in it. The same is true of Sun Microsystems which developed Java for Blu-ray. Since patent pools have non-discriminatory provisions, no tie-in can exist with any operating system or who is licensing the technology. Every claim in the above paragraph is simply wrong.HDi is based on open web standards (XML) which makes it very easy for web developers to become familiar with it. This is the reason that there are hundreds of HD DVD discs (nearly every title) with HDi interactivity whereas there are less than 30 Blu-ray discs released that are using BD-J. BD-J requires a greater degree of programming experience, which is why the even the Blu-ray technical committee investigating HDi recommended it in place of BD-J, which had previously been selected.

]]> By: Roberto Galoppini http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-237044 Roberto Galoppini Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:13:19 +0000 http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-237044 In my opinion what I call the <a href="http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/26/file-format-war-more-on-chinas-position-on-open-standards/" rel="nofollow">file format war</a> it is a very complicated issue. I would recommend Europe to adopt formal procedures to adopt IT products pretending to be compliant with this or that standard. Would you believe me that there is no product fully compliant with those specifications? Everyone talks about standards, but compliance it is a different thing! In my opinion what I call the file format war it is a very complicated issue. I would recommend Europe to adopt formal procedures to adopt IT products pretending to be compliant with this or that standard. Would you believe me that there is no product fully compliant with those specifications?

Everyone talks about standards, but compliance it is a different thing!

]]> By: burun http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-236048 burun Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:56:56 +0000 http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-236048 The questions Roberto poses to lobbyist Florian Mueller gave me to think about the current file format war and the role of medium/large European companies. It impresses me how many of them still have no idea of what mess the specification of OOXML are, how bad it will be for them on the market to have it approved by ISO. I also think that a stable lobbying group can be more effective at preventing damaging legislations. The questions Roberto poses to lobbyist Florian Mueller gave me to think about the current file format war and the role of medium/large European companies. It impresses me how many of them still have no idea of what mess the specification of OOXML are, how bad it will be for them on the market to have it approved by ISO. I also think that a stable lobbying group can be more effective at preventing damaging legislations.

]]> By: Roberto Galoppini http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-21435 Roberto Galoppini Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:58:21 +0000 http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-21435 Dear Simon, thanks for your comment, I wrote a post about it, asking Florian his opinion too. <a href="http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/24/software-patent-the-truth-unveiled-simon-phippss-and-florian-muellers-opinions/" rel="nofollow">Have a look</a> and keep joining the conversation, you are always welcome. Dear Simon, thanks for your comment, I wrote a post about it, asking Florian his opinion too. Have a look and keep joining the conversation, you are always welcome.

]]> By: ][ stefano maffulli » Lobbisti del Software Libero http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-21425 ][ stefano maffulli » Lobbisti del Software Libero Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:26:20 +0000 http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-21425 [...] L’enfasi è mia: servono sì fondi ma non solo. Servono strutture organizzative migliori e più efficienti. Servono manager capaci per le iniziative non profit esistenti.  I fondi si possono trovare e ormai me ne sono convinto dopo anni di lavoro in FSFE.  Per esempio, nel 2006 FSFE ha ricavato circa 260mila euro, +100% rispetto al 2005.  Nonostante ciò si parte per Strasburgo con meno preparazione di quanta sarebbe stata possibile.  Forse ha ragione Phipps: gli hacker ha bisogno anche delle schiene dritte dei ’suits’ per avere successo, e viceversa. Commercial Open Source Software » Open Source Advocacy: from hecklers to lobbyists [...] […] L’enfasi è mia: servono sì fondi ma non solo. Servono strutture organizzative migliori e più efficienti. Servono manager capaci per le iniziative non profit esistenti.  I fondi si possono trovare e ormai me ne sono convinto dopo anni di lavoro in FSFE.  Per esempio, nel 2006 FSFE ha ricavato circa 260mila euro, +100% rispetto al 2005.  Nonostante ciò si parte per Strasburgo con meno preparazione di quanta sarebbe stata possibile.  Forse ha ragione Phipps: gli hacker ha bisogno anche delle schiene dritte dei ’suits’ per avere successo, e viceversa. Commercial Open Source Software » Open Source Advocacy: from hecklers to lobbyists […]

]]> By: Simon Phipps http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-20781 Simon Phipps Mon, 23 Apr 2007 03:04:46 +0000 http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/04/22/open-source-advocacy-from-heckers-to-lobbysts/#comment-20781 Something this overlooks - and that was present in the CII Directive debate - is that as more and more companies depend on open source as the bedrock of their business, they will direct their lobbyists to act on behalf of the open source communities. I spent a great deal of time in support of lobbyists (as did my colleague Mark Webbink from Red Hat) patiently explaining to politicians and their staffs the problems with software patents as envisaged by Microsoft and the other pro-lobby members. In fact, I might even want to claim that our little informal alliance - Sun, Red Hat, Oracle, IBM and one other that prefers to remain anonymous - actually swung the interoperability argument that killed the Directive. This is not to say we don't need lobbyists acting on behalf of FOSS projects directly. But don't forget that corporations that grok FOSS lend can their weight to the cause. Something this overlooks - and that was present in the CII Directive debate - is that as more and more companies depend on open source as the bedrock of their business, they will direct their lobbyists to act on behalf of the open source communities.

I spent a great deal of time in support of lobbyists (as did my colleague Mark Webbink from Red Hat) patiently explaining to politicians and their staffs the problems with software patents as envisaged by Microsoft and the other pro-lobby members. In fact, I might even want to claim that our little informal alliance - Sun, Red Hat, Oracle, IBM and one other that prefers to remain anonymous - actually swung the interoperability argument that killed the Directive.

This is not to say we don’t need lobbyists acting on behalf of FOSS projects directly. But don’t forget that corporations that grok FOSS lend can their weight to the cause.

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